After her controversial visit to President Trump’s Oval Office, Kim Kardashian gave her first interview to CNN’s Van Jones. The interview with CNN happened shortly after 63-year-old Alice Johnson, a first-time nonviolent drug offender who was serving a life sentence in an Alabama prison, was granted clemency in part because of Kardashian’s activism.
Kardashian described calling Johnson to tell her she would be freed. “I was like ‘you’re going home,’ she said. “We cried, maybe, on the phone for like three minutes straight. Everyone was just crying.”
The phone call I just had with Alice will forever be one of my best memories. Telling her for the first time and hearing her screams while crying together is a moment I will never forget.
— Kim Kardashian West (@KimKardashian) June 6, 2018
It was an emotional and touching conclusion to the story Kardashian happened on by chance when she read about it on Twitter. “She lost her longtime job, got a divorce, her son died,” she said to Jones. “Everything was going so bad for her, and she got desperate. I felt like she’s a good person. You can see that in her.”
First, the reality TV star called Ivanka Trump to plead on behalf of Johnson and asked for a meeting with President Trump. According to Kardashian, Ivanka connected Kardashian with Jared Kushner, who became interested in Johnson’s case.
“I did what I knew how to do,” she said. “Everyone has brought attention to this case and I just happened to see it on Twitter. So, I do want to give credit where credit is due to everyone that’s been working so hard on this for so long for her.”
She also responded to Jones’ inquiry about the idea that she was being used as the president’s political pawn — and whether she was giving Trump legitimacy. Kardashian responded by saying that her husband had “already given him legitimacy in that way.”
“I was working on this before,” she said. “I don’t think I would be used. At the end of the day, he heard me out. We got the job done. What could he really use me for?”
Kardashian, a superstar herself, wasn’t above being starstruck in the Oval Office. “I have to say I never get starstruck,” she told Jones. “I was starstruck over the Oval Office.”